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Listers,

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On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 4:10 PM Renee Kamau via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Hi Josiah,
>
> You\’re right!
> Elon Musk said \’use Signal,\’ and confused investors sent the wrong stock
> up 438% on Monday
> <www.cnbc.com/2021/01/11/signal-advance-jumps-another-438percent-after-elon-musk-fueled-buying-frenzy.html>
> \”Signal Advance, which reported receiving no revenue in 2015 and 2016, is
> now worth more than $3 billion.\”
>
> Apparently this also happened with Zoom a couple of years ago. \”… people
> bought shares of Zoom Technologies, whose ticker symbol was ZOOM but was
> not the trendy video-calling service Zoom Video Communications, which
> trades under the symbol ZM. Last year the U.S. Securities and Exchange
> Commission stopped trading of Zoom Technologies, partly because of
> confusion over its connection with Zoom Video.\”
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 12:59 Josiah Mugambi via kictanet <
> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Signal Advance Inc <www.signaladvance.com/> ( whose stock went
>> x11) has no relation with the Signal <signal.org/> messaging
>> platform.
>>
>> As this is a tech policy group, this may be a useful read (less so for a
>> non tech person):
>>
>>
>> medium.com/swlh/whatsapp-doesnt-read-your-messages-it-doesn-t-need-to-7ce0ec2846f9
>>
>>
>> excerpt:
>>
>> \”End to end encryption is more about security than privacy. We are
>> protected against unknown actors but have no control over what known actors
>> will do.\”
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:04 AM Rawgee l.k via kictanet <
>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> My take it could be more of under table business trade agreement between
>>> Whatsapp and Signal.
>>> After the announcement from Elon Musk [coincidentally the world\’s
>>> richest man] for guys to move to signal app the stock jumped to 1100%.
>>> Screenshot on the trade app overview.
>>> Intresting times both for data privacy and financial services.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 00:39 Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <
>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Those new terms from Facebook/WhatsApp are terrible. Bad for privacy.
>>>>
>>>> To illustrate how good laws and punitive fines protect citizens,
>>>> Facebook has different rules for Europe. Because of GDPR, these new
>>>> changes do not appear in the European version of the updated terms and
>>>> conditions. Facebook later confirmed that the rules will not apply in the
>>>> EU, EEA, or the UK.
>>>> digit.fyi/facebook-to-access-whatsapp-user-data-except-in-europe/
>>>>
>>>> It seems the rest of the world does not matter, even with Data
>>>> Protection laws available in countries like Kenya. Perhaps it is contempt
>>>> from Facebook for smaller jurisdictions (What will you do? attitude. –
>>>> Mtado?). This would be a good intray for the new Kenyan Data Commissioner.
>>>>
>>>> My take is that the new rules will not hurt WhatsApp in the long run
>>>> because of the phenomenon called Network Effect (the value or utility a
>>>> user derives from a good or service depends on the number of users of
>>>> compatible products) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect
>>>>
>>>> Those Church groups, Estate groups, Former school groups, investment
>>>> groups, … are not moving to Signal or Telegram. A few techie groups and
>>>> privacy-oriented groups may move, but my prediction is those are the
>>>> exceptions.
>>>> ______________________
>>>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/mwendwa-kivuva
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 at 22:31, David Indeje via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Listers,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think all apps have been sharing our data. It is only that Facebook
>>>>> has gone public, after all it also owns Instagram. What if it buys Signal
>>>>> for the Signalers?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 8:23 PM John Kariuki via kictanet <
>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Listers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are your thoughts on the new terms of service and privacy on
>>>>>> What\’s Up? Facebook plans to share What\’s Up data with other Facebook
>>>>>> products starting from 8th February 2021.
>>>>>>
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> —
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> Best regards,
>
>
> *Renée Kamau.*
> *LL.B. (UoL); PGDip (KSL); LL.M. (ONU)*
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